The Wives of Revy: Muskoka Freerider, Matt Dubois and Jason McMurray

All right, welcome back to another episode of the Sledder Cast podcast. We're up here in Edmonton, Canada. We crossed the border to chat and mingle with our Canadian friends. We're at the Alberta Snowmobile and ATV and Off-Road Show. There's a lot of people, there's a lot of stuff going on today, right?

Oh yeah, it's busy. It started yesterday about midday and it's been busy.

So we're in the Deviant Ink booth. We've got the Freerider Filmz crew with us. I think you guys are sold out of merch?

Yeah, pretty much. Close up shop, time to head to the mall.

Right, to the mall.

That's all I came for, was the mall.

Heck yeah. So a lot of you may be wondering, who are these ladies sitting here, and why are they on the Sledder Cast podcast? We have dubbed this episode the Wives of Revy. And it actually just came to fruition about 20 minutes ago. It was kind of an idea, and then we're like, actually, we should do it. Let's do it.

For that person who is just scrolling Instagram, YouTube, whatever, and they see this thumbnail and they're deciding, should I watch or listen to this episode, knowing what we're going to talk about today, what's the reason we're going to give that individual to get them to stop what they're doing and watch the episode?

Perspective. Seeing the behind the scenes of family. They're not just snowmobilers on YouTube, they do so much more. Great husbands, partners, and they work their butts off to be able to do this sport that costs quite a bit of money. Even though people see them on Instagram and they have this many followers, they're still human. They're still dads, they're still friends, they're still brothers.

Just getting a glimpse of the behind the scenes. Getting to know the boys.

Yeah. And I think we're going to chat about the really good things about them, but we're also going to throw some shade their way too.

Of course. No one's perfect.

So we'll have some fun in this episode. So first off, who are you guys? Why are you here, why are we interviewing you right now? Let's start here.

I'm Chloe, I'm Matthew's other half. I call him Matthew. Everyone calls him Matt.

I noticed that.

Yeah, I don't know why. I've always called him Matthew, and his name on everything is Matt. Instagram, everything, everyone calls him Matt. I only call him Matthew, unless I'm mad at him, then I go "Matt," and he's like, oh.

What would he do if you just started calling him Muskoka? Would he be like, stop?

I think so, yeah. I think he would. Matthew.

Okay, so you're Matthew's other half.

Yep.

I'm Dana, I'm Matt Dub's other half. I just call him Matt, and when I'm mad I say Matthew.

We're opposite.

I'm Leah, I'm Jason McMurray's other half. Most people call him Jay, J-Bird. He's Jason to me.

Jason, okay. So is this your first show that you guys have all gone to together?

All together. Well, we did Toronto together last year, that's where I first met Dana. And this is my first time meeting Leah.

Yeah, so my first time at a show.

Awesome.

But we're not invited to Hay Days.

Not invited? That's a big no-no.

Okay, so it's not that we're not invited. I wanted to go one year, but I didn't realize what it's really like once the show's done. The craziness, the sleeping situation. Matthew's like, you'll hate it. There's no hotel, there's no comfortable bed, it's a bunch of guys. Survival of the fittest, literally. He's like, you'll basically be miserable because you'll be so tired, and there's nowhere to sit, so I don't think you want to come. If we could find a hotel closer, or an RV that's big enough for 20 people, I guess. But I don't think you want to sleep in a trailer with a bunch of dudes. And I was like, no. Have fun, just text me in the evening.

Probably not the preferred scene.

No. I'm sure there's tons of women that go that love it, and it's good. He just knows how I am, and how I am with sleep and all that. The daytime would be fun, and it'd be good to see everybody support him and everything, but once the day is done, to be out till three, it's a lot. So I stay home and watch the dogs and take care of the house.

Good, that's awesome. All the good stuff.

Someone's got to pay the bills, right?

Right. All right, so how long have you guys been together with your other halves?

I've been married to Matt 10 years. This summer we celebrated our 10th wedding anniversary, so we had a catered event at our house with a bunch of family. But we met about 13 years ago. He actually just showed up at my condo with my cousin. He's a friend of my cousin, and he started texting my cousin after, like, can I get her number? And my cousin is like, no dude, you're not talking to my cousin. Of course.

Three kids later.

Three kids later.

Sealed it. Awesome.

I've been with Jason for 17 years.

17 years.

I was 14, 15 when we got together. So we've been married seven, but together 17.

So high school sweethearts?

High school sweethearts, yeah. Same high school. It's pretty great.

Good job.

Well, I feel really young now.

10 and 17. So what do you guys...

We dropped to four. I joke with Matthew, I say we've been together for five, because I round up. We'll be five this coming spring. Five sounds better. He says round down, we've been together for four.

I see. Four and a half, five, whatever.

So, four. Well, okay, so we could have been dating longer. Yes, Matthew. I followed Matthew on Instagram before I even knew who he really was. I came across his page somehow, I don't know how. I knew that he was Canadian, but I didn't really read his bio, that he was in Muskoka, because we have a cottage on the same lake. I didn't know that he was from that area.

I love that you guys call them cottages, by the way. Cabins, cottage.

We call it a cottage. So I'd follow him, I'd like his stuff because it was good, and then he would message me on Instagram.

He was sliding in? He doesn't seem like that type.

I know. And I wouldn't answer him. I'm like, I don't know who this is. No. And then, I think it was the winter before we met, so a year prior, he replied to one of my stories. I was at my cottage snowmobiling, and I answered him because I felt bad that I kept not answering him. I answered a few little comments back and then stopped answering.

That same year, in the summer, he saw that I was at my cottage with my cousins, and he's like, oh, you should come hang out with us, we're on the lake. No idea that he was on the same lake as me. And I was like, okay, now I'm going to die in the woods. I don't know who this guy is. I'm not getting in my boat and going at night. No. So then I stopped answering, and I think he kind of gave up a bit. He was like, okay, this girl's not going to do it.

So the next winter, my cousin also has a cottage on our lake, so me and my dad snowmobiled to my cousin's at night, and when we were coming back it was blizzard snowing and we got turned around. So I was like, okay, I'm just going to go up to a cottage.

This sounds like a Hallmark movie right here. It's going there.

It's kind of long, I'm almost done. So we got turned around, and we'd been on this for 2 hours and it should only take us 20 minutes to get back. So I walk up to this cottage with my dad to ask for directions.

It's his cottage.

It is. It was actually Matthew's brother. Matthew was in Revelstoke at the time. Matthew's brother said the last name, and I'm like, I know that last name, why do I know that? So I searched it on Instagram, and I was like, oh my God, this guy's been messaging me for a long time. One of my girlfriends was up with me, and I was like, should I message him? And she's like, yeah, do it. You know what my line was? "Hey, do you have a brother?" And I was like, he probably thinks I'm into his brother.

Oh my gosh, poor guy. He's just beaten down, broken.

So then we were talking on Instagram for probably two months, every day, and then he came back in March. It was literally the weekend he came home, we went on a date. He drove down to where I live, which was 2 hours away, and I knew right away. So technically we could have been together for 5 years, but because I was stupid and didn't know what was right in front of me, it's really only four. So that might have also answered one of your questions, how we met.

But maybe that was how it was supposed to happen.

Meant to be, yeah. Maybe. That first year I was still in school, so it would have been difficult. We would have made it work, but it was easier when I wasn't in school. And because of COVID I wasn't working then, because with my job I couldn't work. So it worked out well, actually. We were able to connect faster.

Yeah, I think we hit most of the check boxes for a Hallmark classic right there.

I actually love our story. Whenever I tell people, I'm like, they probably don't want to hear this really long story, but I actually love our story. Not being biased, I think it's so cute.

Especially in this era of Instagram and social media.

Yeah. How did you meet? Well, he was in my DMs, literally.

It's better than "I met him on Tinder," right?

You're aging me, because 17 years ago I met him at a motocross track. That's how we met. We didn't have cell phones then.

I know, right? No Tinder, no Instagram. It's a good thing. I'm glad that we did not grow up in the Tinder days.

I agree with you there. I guess we don't know what we don't know, but still.

It's true. I wasn't really part of it like that. It was for fun, to joke around on your phone. But clearly not, because I didn't answer Matt for the longest time.

So where do you guys live, and give us an idea of how many kids you have, what the family situation looks like at home.

So I live in Quebec, about an hour north of Ottawa, in a small little community. We have three kids. They're three, six and nine. And we have a little puppy, Winnie.

Little puppy Winnie. Okay.

I'm from Ontario, actually a little island called Manitoulin Island. It's the largest freshwater island in the world. I have two kids, three and one.

Nice. So, Google Manitoulin Island.

Manitoulin. Yeah, it's beautiful.

I have to do that. We'll overlay a video of the island. Okay, Chloe, what do you guys got cooking?

I'm in Ontario, 2 hours north of Toronto. I have no children yet. Matthew, no children. We kind of put it out there last year, and nothing's changed.

She still doesn't have a ring.

No ring either, Matthew.

What the heck, dude.

But we have two dogs. We got our first dog when we weren't even dating 6 months yet, and then we just got another dog a year ago. So we have two dogs. Those are our babies.

A lot of work. Our puppy was so much work, because we have the three-year-old and we got a new puppy. I'm like, that's a lot. This is like a newborn stage again. I don't know what's worse. What was I thinking? It's like having four kids.

Well, as far as what you guys do outside of supporting your other half with snowmobiling, what is it that you guys do? From stay-at-home mom to whatever.

I'm currently on maternity leave, so I'm at home with my kids, the three-year-old and one-year-old, for now. I actually go back to work in February. I'm a civil engineering technologist, so I mainly work alongside an engineer on parking lots, subdivisions, all that kind of design. So that's what I do.

Awesome.

I actually recently resigned from my position. I was working in audiology, doing hearing testing and prescribing hearing aids, for 16 years.

Oh, wow.

And we purchased Matt's family business. So he's like, okay, you've got to quit your job and you've got to work for me. And I'm like, okay, well, let me take this slow. So I started working with him part-time. I was doing 4 days a week clinical and one day a week with him, because I didn't know if I wanted to leave my career. This is what I went to university for.

Eventually it just made more sense for our family and the kids and their sport schedules. I was having to show up late to work and leave early and use vacation days, and it's like, this doesn't work. So I finally bit the bullet. Okay, this is a big career change, I'll move over to the family business. I've been there since January, and it's a lot. It's a transition, working with your husband every day. You have to split the work version and the home version, and it's a challenge, but we're making it work. Good so far.

And you said you purchased the family business. What is the family business?

The family business is parking. We manage about 250 condominium parking lots. People call us to register their vehicle if they're visiting a friend or family, and if they don't register, they get a parking ticket. So we issue the parking tickets, for various reasons. And then there's another subdivision of the company for line painting.

Okay, cool. All right, Chloe.

Okay, where to start. I kind of do two different things. A year ago I quit my job. I was in child and youth care, that's what I went to school for, and I did that for a couple years. Then I just didn't like it anymore, the education system. I needed a break from it, and I didn't know what I was going to do.

So Matthew was like, find something to do in my off season, so late spring into summer, and then in the wintertime you can come work for me. So in the summertime I was like, okay, I need to find something to do. What's good in our area? Either construction, landscaping, house cleaning, something like that. So I thought, I'll give housekeeping a try and see how that goes. I do it with one of my girlfriends, who is the wife of Matthew's childhood best friend. It actually worked really well. We did way better than we thought we were going to.

So I do that in the summer, and then in the wintertime, when Matthew goes to Revelstoke, I do the merchandise. I'll order the stuff, I'll do the packaging, the emails. I try my best to answer the emails, but when you're doing thousands of packages a day, you get so tired.

So if you're ever emailing freeriderfilmz.com, it could be both. If it's a good response, it's Chloe. If it's bad, it's Matt.

Yeah, no, it can be both of us. He'll check it, I'll check it. And sometimes when he comes home in the spring I'll help him with his tax stuff, receipts, stuff like that. Everything's a write-off. But when I want a write-off, it's not a write-off. That's a new word this weekend: oh, that's a write-off.

And is it really a write-off? You still have to have the cash to have a write-off.

Right. The mall trip is a write-off. A new purse would be a write-off.

New luggage bag.

New luggage bag. Matthew ruined my luggage bag on the way here.

Write-off. Done deal, since it was hauling his merch.

Exactly. So that's what I do. Summertime housekeeping, and then wintertime, Matthew.

Okay, so we're getting into the tell-all section. You ladies know these guys. You know them too well. Before we started, I went over there and they're like, hey, what are you actually going to ask? Can we go through these questions and make sure everything's kosher? Do we have final say on what gets published? Is it a roast? And I'm like, I don't think we're going to roll it that way. So we'll try and be nice. But what's the worst thing about your husband? The worst characteristic, the thing that just irks you the most?

For me, his time management. I'm the type of person that needs a plan. I know A, B, C, everything from start to finish, done. Matthew, no. If we're late...

He's reading your lips over there.

You can hear me. If we're late, Matthew, we're an hour late. I have to tell him we're leaving an hour before we need to.

Didn't you almost miss your flight?

Yeah, we almost missed our flight here.

Matthew doesn't think that, though. He thinks he's right on.

Well, we made it. It just works out for him. But I get anxiety over it. I'm like, no, we need to get going, we're supposed to be somewhere. Even when we're going away for the weekend, I have all the bags packed, let's go. And it's no, no, no, diddle. That's his time management, 100%. Love you, though. But time management.

So, time management. We've got one.

Jason, stubborn like there's no tomorrow. He would be that guy that if this whole area was doing one thing, he would go and do the complete opposite, just because. It's a love-hate thing for me. But yeah, very stubborn.

Okay.

And Matt is so impatient. Literally, I don't know what it is. I'm like, man, just chill. When it comes to driving, or he'll order a package and he's tracking it, like, where is it, why isn't it here? You just ordered it last night. Chill. Just so impatient. But he's also stubborn too. I think it's a guy thing.

I wouldn't have gotten that vibe from Matt.

No, he doesn't portray that type, but he's definitely like that to the core. It's in there.

It's in there. Okay, so that's the worst. I'm sure there's other little things we could add in there. But what's their superpower? Look at them over there. They're dogs, right? Just working it, killing it. What's the best thing, what is their superpower when you think of them?

He's actually the best at this. Matthew's worst feature that I just said is also his best. Even though he leaves stuff, he can get it done on time, and he will knock it out of the park. I don't know how he does it. He does well under pressure. He'll just get it done.

Perfect chaos, almost.

Literally, that's how. And it's perfect. He can just do it, and I don't know how. I can't do that. He does well under pressure, gets everything done, and it's perfect. So his worst feature is his best feature.

It kind of goes hand in hand.

Matt's is similar, I don't know how to say it. They can problem solve so well. Something will happen, and I'm thinking, what am I going to do, how am I going to do this? And he's already figured it out.

Oh, okay, sure.

Jason, for me, it's kind of a different one. His drive to always do more and be better. I guess it would be his drive. We come from a small town, and it was very easy to get caught up in just living, I shouldn't say average, but a lifestyle where we could just live here and do the same thing day to day. He's very much, no, let's seek bigger. And I like that about him. That would probably be one of them, anyway. He's got a lot of good qualities.

Awesome, love it. Like I told you guys, we're going to break these guys down, but we also want to build them up and show the behind the scenes. They just show the good parts, and that's really how social media is these days. You're really just catching the highlights. You don't really see a lot of the real moments where there's struggle and stuff.

Okay, so what do the fellas do when they're not snowmobiling? We can go on YouTube and see exactly what they do during snowmobiling season out in Revy. But when they're not there, when they're home, what are they doing for work? What are some of the hobbies you see them do outside of snowmobiling?

Jason's an electrician and a father of two, like I said. He also owns his own electrical business, and he is an electrician underground in a mine. So he technically works three jobs.

There you go.

So that's a big thing. And honestly, we're building a house right now, so that has been his life for the past six or eight months. He works too hard. He's actually building the house.

Oh, so he's building it. There we go.

Yeah, on Manitoulin Island. Our dream place, a little 3 acre property right on Lake Huron.

So cool. Three acres, I like that.

Well, across the road from that is his family's 100 acres, so that's the comparison. He's big into hunting, does that kind of stuff too.

And can you hunt right on the island?

You can, yeah. We're both hunters.

Oh, heck yeah. Archery or rifle?

Rifle. We both hunt deer. He hunts moose too. He would never come on here and admit it, but I've shot a bigger deer than him.

Do you keep them in your house?

No, I don't. They stay back at my hunt camp.

Okay, that's a better spot. Awesome.

So Matt basically manages the business, the parking company. And when he's not doing that, he's basically driving our kids everywhere. He's the Uber driver. 3 days a week he drives our oldest daughter to figure skating, which is an hour away from our house, and the other 3 days I'm driving our other daughter to gymnastics, which is the opposite direction, in Ottawa. But one day out of the week he still does his thing. Mountain biking, dirt biking, golf simulator, random things. He just does it all in terms of activities, and it's like, okay, what's next? I'm like, as long as you don't get hurt, we're good.

Awesome. Okay, and then...

My God, he's taking a picture of me. My Matthew does excavation in the summertime. He works for his dad's company, and he's done that for years. It's basically in his blood. He loves it. If you could snowmobile all year round, you would. But he loves work. He never complains about work. He still works really long days, but when we first started dating, he'd be gone from 7:00 a.m. to 6 p.m. Now he actually comes home for dinner.

So he does that during the summer. His hobbies, even when he comes home from work, he's doing something with snowmobiling. This year, all summer, he was working on something for a sled. I don't know if I can say what it is. Some people know what it is. His lightweight mod. He worked on that for a lot of the summer. So even when he's done his summer job, I feel weird saying summer job, his excavation job, he's doing something with snowmobiling, either physically or on the computer. He's always working.

But then he has other hobbies too. He has a speedboat he likes in the summertime, he has his little pit bike that he rides around, does stuff with his friends. So he's always doing something. I don't think they can ever sit still.

No. If we're just going to chill, there's no "just chill."

Definitely not. Just chill happens at 10 p.m. Otherwise there's no just chill time.

Well, it follows suit, because when those guys are out snowmobiling, there's a lot of back to back to back days put in, and that never stops. Chloe, are you guys the wives of Revy too? Hey, you guys aren't miked in, so you don't even know what's going on right now.

I can hear everything.

Oh, we told secrets. The secrets already happened.

You guys missed it. The dirt has been told.

Did I do something wrong?

Oh my gosh, Matthew, it's fine.

I lost the train of thought. What were we talking about before they interrupted us? Back to back days.

Oh yeah. Back to back, it takes a very unique person. You can say, I would love to snowmobile every day, but it's actually a lot of work. My Matt works out. He's always thinking, okay, I've got to do this before sledding season. I've got to work out, I've got to eat this, I've got to get my body healthy. I can't get sick, the kids can't get me sick. Because I'm going out there and it's a lot of time and money, and if I'm out there and I'm sick, the season is so short.

And I feel like there's different levels of riding too. I can't say they're right at the top of that level, but they are. What they do is insane, where they go, the elevation levels, everything. I feel like that's dangerous.

Yes. And I'm always waiting, because of the time difference. I'm always like, okay, he's supposed to be texting or calling at this time, and he hasn't yet, what's happening? So we have a satellite app that I can ping him on, or see where he is, and if there's an emergency he can call. So once in a while I'll open the app and see where he is. Okay, I know he's still there, he just hasn't made it out yet.

Jason has a Garmin inReach, and it's pretty wicked. I won't be able to sleep if I haven't heard from him by 11:00 p.m., which out there would be what, 8? So I just won't sleep. I'll be up all night checking my phone to make sure he's back. But he'll text me on his Garmin, like, sorry, still here, I'm alive, not dead in an avalanche, go to bed. And then I'll be fine, and then he'll text me when he's back at the house. It's just that waiting period. Is everything okay today, or did something happen?

Your brain kind of naturally tends to go to the worst case scenario immediately.

For sure.

As far as living with these guys, I know we've asked some different questions here, but paint a picture of what it's like living with them.

How much do we want to share? How much do we really want to expose? I can't bash Jason, honestly. He's that guy who'll be involved in the laundry, he does the dishes, he helps clean, takes the garbage out. I respect him a lot for that. There's some guys that are like, I expect this done and this done and this done. No, he's not like that.

He's pulling his weight.

Exactly. Same with Matt. He won't pull out the vacuum, but if I want him to, he will. He'll take out the garbage, do the dishes. I'm gone three days a week to gymnastics, and I come home and food's on the table waiting for me, or it's in the fridge, like, your dinner's ready, heat it up.

It's a partnership kind of thing.

For sure. But there's little things, you know? The water bottles. We've got to kick that one. A bedside table full of water bottles. It's like, man, I know you love water, but let's put them away. Just little things.

For me, it would be just everything everywhere. The reason why it's like that is because we live in a bungalow, and our basement is occupied by our renter, and then we had Matthew's dad's office down there, the employees, the secretaries and stuff. So it was just our open living area, one bedroom, and one bedroom was the merch room. It was a 10 by 10 room. And then the bathroom. So we had no choice but to keep everything everywhere in the living room. And I'm like, keep it organized, where's my space at? But he will go in and clean it, and then it's spotless.

Our roles are kind of different, since we don't really have kids yet and I'm more in a stay-at-home position. Matthew works longer hours, so I do kind of do that role more. I hate saying that, I don't know how it sounds, but I do the dinner and the dishes, and Matthew will help out, but I know he works a lot, so I just kind of naturally do that for him. I'm just like, okay, you're working, you're providing for the house.

He'll go to work all day, and I'll have dinner ready for him when he comes home, and I'll do the dishes. He will do the stuff that I ask him to, he will help out, but he just works a lot, so I just do it.

It's a phase. You're in one era and we're in a different one, and you'll get there. When I was on maternity leave and Matt had to go to work, he would sleep in the basement. I'm like, I understand, you don't need to be getting up with a baby at night. You can't really do much anyway in the middle of the night. Go to the basement, get your rest, be ready for work. That's just where we are in our stage of life. But once it's different, it will change, like how these two have their lives. They just take on that role.

We'll get there one day. We first have to get a ring.

We'll work on that. We'll just add it to the website.

Add it to cart.

That's a good one. He all of a sudden sees that pop up in his notifications. People are purchasing.

Okay, here's kind of a funny question. How much do you think your husband spends on snowmobiling each year?

I feel a bit sick answering that.

I really don't know.

Let's put a number out there. If you just had to guess.

Including the sled, or just accessories?

Including the sled. If he didn't snowmobile, there would be this much money available.

40,000.

I was going to say 40.

We're talking Canadian, right?

Yeah, $40,000 Canadian.

I could see that.

And that's not with the truck. To sled you need a truck, you need a sled deck, you need a trailer, you need, you need. The list doesn't end.

Basically, if they didn't snowmobile, what funds would be available to go to the mall?

Oh, I feel like mine would be totally different. I want to shoot high and say between 40 and 60, because Matthew has so many hobbies with snowmobiling. His lightweight mod, I don't even know if I'm pronouncing that right, he's buying all that stuff.

We're learning the lingo.

So on top of his sleds that he orders and his gear and all that, he's spending on other stuff too.

There's a lot of stuff that gets comped for you guys, right? They're hustling, so they're getting some compensation from companies, but it's not like everything's free.

Gee, tell us that. The gas bill is not free.

That's your next project. Get Petro-Canada.

Yeah, sponsor the gas. It's like $1,500 just to drive from Quebec to Revelstoke, one way.

Leah just reminded me, when I came over, that was one thing they told me: if they ask how much snowmobiling costs, it's free.

It's free for them, for sure.

No, snowmobiling is very expensive. But the way I look at it, they could be doing a lot worse things with their life right now.

They could be doing a lot worse things. I think it's great. They could just be sitting in a basement playing video games and eating Doritos all day.

Right, and not vacuuming and cleaning and picking up.

I know. There's a lot of people who do that. For sure.

All right, final, this is the lightning round right here. We've got one question for you, a hot take. I gave you guys a little warning on this question. We typically ask the same two questions when we have snowmobilers or guests on the show, so we catered this a little bit to you guys. What's one thing that the sledders who are watching this, who follow your husbands, probably don't know about them? We're going to spill the tea.

I don't know. I would say, just let him do it. My theory is, don't hold your husband back. Don't hold your boyfriend back. You knew who they were before meeting them. Don't try and change who they are, what they like, what they do. It builds a better relationship. I know so many people are like, oh, I can't believe you let your husband go snowmobiling. He's gone for 4 weeks and you have the three kids. But that's what his heart wants to do, and I'm happy he's able to do that. It's hard. I'm texting him like, can you come home, please? I can't do this today. But then you get over it and you move on. So just let them do it.

Okay, I like how you guys took this. You spun the question on me, into tips for what makes it work with your husband.

Yes. For me, people go, oh, that must be really hard for you. And I'm like, yeah, but I have a support system, and Matthew also helps. He's very sympathetic about it. He understands. Obviously I don't have kids like you two do, but I still miss him, and he acknowledges that and does his best. When he first started, I'd only see him at Christmas and then I wouldn't see him till March. But now that he's built his platform and stuff, he's taking the time to come home and see me, or I go there. And even when he's gone, he still tries his best to make time to talk to me, because he's so busy. They get down so late and then he starts editing. So it's not as hard as people think it is if you have the proper support system, and your partner sympathizes with you and understands. A partnered relationship.

For sure.

I'm pretty much the same as those two. I agree with that.

Cool. Is there anything else we need to talk about with these fellas here?

No, they're pretty good dudes.

He's pretty proud of them all. He's pretty good.

And honestly, everyone thinks the guys live near each other. No, nobody lives near anybody. They all met because of snowmobiling.

See, that's what I noticed when I was chatting with them yesterday. It seems like they've known each other since childhood. But it was random. If you would have gone this way or parked at a different parking lot, this wouldn't have been a thing.

My Matt and Muskoka met in the Chic-Chocs in Quebec, and Jason too, I think that's where they got to know each other. They may have followed each other on Facebook, but I remember after one trip Matt came home and he's like, Muskoka and I actually met in person, we were riding and chatting. And now they have group chats and they text. Sometimes Jason will text early because he's going to work, and I'm like, Matt, who's texting you? It's Jason.

That's fun.

They've built a really good bond. Matt says all the time, some of my good friends, I don't even live near. They all live so far apart.

That's cool. It's cool with the snowmobiling community, because it really is a community. It's a different community, and I've said this before, it's because it gets taken away from snowmobilers. Everyone experiences the moment of, I can't do the thing I like to do anymore. You have to wait, and you hope the snow always comes back. Everyone experiences that, and when it starts to snow again for the first time, everyone's like, heck yeah. It does help build that community. So it's a strong community, for sure.

And honestly, peace of mind for me is seeing these guys, the knowledge that they have, the research they do, all that kind of stuff. Jason's pretty particular about picking who he rides with, liability-wise. And for me, just sitting here talking to these guys, I feel more comfortable that my husband's up on the mountain with these two guys, actually putting faces to names.

I know I would feel comfortable, if Matt's not answering me, texting Jason, like, he hasn't answered. It's a support system too. Community, family. I remember your son had an ear infection or something, and Jason and Leah were texting me because I work in that field, and I'm like, do this, go to this. And I'd never even met her before.

I know. And I was so nervous coming here, because I was like, Jason, I don't know them. And he's like, Leah, you know me. They're exactly like me. The girls are so down to earth. He said that, and it was wicked. I'm so glad I got to meet them.

Cool. I just kind of watch them from afar, and you guys look like you've been natural friends forever.

And putting ourselves in that position is a little nerve-wracking. Our husbands have similar interests, but do we? We're also individuals too.

But it's worked out.

Okay, well, we're going to wrap this episode up. Once again, we are live from the Edmonton snowmobile show. Sledder Cast podcast, the Wives of Revy episode. We just dubbed it, we did it. If you haven't liked, subscribed, shared, do all of the things that you can do in the comment section or in the description below, wherever you're watching or listening. Appreciate you guys. Thank you so much.

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